00:54:04 Gina/BHTNH (she/her): Hi everyone. Thanks for joining us! If you have a technical problem, please put it in the chat prefaced by the letters IT (ie. IT - I can’t hear the speaker) 
If you have questions for the panelists, please put it in the chat prefaced by the letters QA (i.e. QA for panelist #1 …) For best viewing put your zoom in “presenter” mode. 00:57:57 CORA QUISUMBING-KING (she/her): Buenas tardes también. 01:00:00 Gina/BHTNH (she/her): If you’d like to look over the suggested reading for this Tea Talk, you can find them here: https://blackheritagetrailnh.org/2022-ewh-tea-talk-suggested-reading-list/ 01:00:48 Gina/BHTNH (she/her): Full poem: http://www.elboricua.com/Poem_Y%20tu%20abuela.html 01:01:10 Gina/BHTNH (she/her): Andres Mejia is a longtime University of New Hampshire employee and was recently named the first Director of Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Justice (DEIJ) for a New Hampshire K-12 public school district. Mejia most recently served as a program manager with the Carsey School of Public Policy’s New Hampshire Listens. He continues to serve as a Fellow with NH Listens and will provide guidance to the civic engagement group on its school- and youth-based programs. Mejia is also a 2018 graduate from the Carsey School’s Master in Community Development 01:02:00 BHTNH: Bienvenido a todos . Welcome everyone. 01:23:24 Mimi White: could someone please read the poem or read it again I signed on a little late. Thank you 01:24:00 Gina/BHTNH (she/her): Poem: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C2%BFY_Tu_Abuela_Donde_Esta%3F 01:24:33 Gina/BHTNH (she/her): You can find the poem and the English translation here: https://changeagent.nelrc.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/extra-manners-embracing-black-puerto-rican-1.pdf 01:25:42 CORA QUISUMBING-KING (she/her): Gina, could you post the other bios. Gracias! 01:26:01 Mimi White: thank you 01:26:12 Gina/BHTNH (she/her): You can read everyone’s bios here: https://blackheritagetrailnh.org/2022-ewh-tea-talk-speaker-bios/ 01:26:32 Gina/BHTNH (she/her): Shantel Palacio is the Principal Advisor at Urbane Advisory and a consulting partner at the Perception Institute. She has served as both a project manager and chief advisor to governmental leaders and spent nearly ten years executing both mayoral and chancellor’s initiatives at NYC’s Department of Education. Additionally, she consults public and private entities on education policy and on implementing diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives. Shantel is also passionate about combating low expectation stereotypes in her hometown, Brownsville, and founded Brownsvillain LLC. Her work featured on NPR’s All Things Considered in 2018. She was awarded the Independent Film Project’s 2019 Documentary Fellowship for co-producing Million Dollar Block, which examines the institutions of public housing, public education, and the criminal justice system through the eyes of its residents. Last October, she was invited by GQ Japan to publish an article about her community in its first-ever Global Edition. 01:26:43 Gina/BHTNH (she/her): Wildolfo (Will) Arvelo is Executive Director of Cross Roads House, Portsmouth. Formerly the president of Great Bay Community College from 2007 to 2017, Dr. Arvelo most recently served as Director of the Division of Economic Development for the state of New Hampshire. Additionally, Dr. Arvelo is founder and chair of the Business Alliance for People of Color (BAPOC) and Economic Vitality New Hampshire (EVNH), and during 2020-2021 held DEI forums for New Hampshire leaders. Dr. Arvelo has served New Hampshire and the Seacoast communities on numerous boards. Currently he serves on NHSPCA, NH Learning Initiative (NHLI), and the National Center for Competency Based Learning (NCCBL). Dr. Arvelo was recently named in the January 2022 issue of Business NH Magazine as one of ten “New Leaders You Should Know”. In 2012 the Portsmouth Chamber named him Citizen of the Year for his work in creating collaborative relationships between Great Bay Community College and Seacoast businesses and communities. 01:26:58 Gina/BHTNH (she/her): Moderator: Dr. Larissa Ruiz Baia brings 20 years of higher education experience to her work as President of Lakes Region Community College (LRCC). She began working at LRCC in July of 2012 as Vice President for Student Services and Enrollment Management. Prior to LRCC, she worked in higher education administration at both private and public institutions. Dr. Baía has also been an adjunct instructor in Comparative Politics and International Relations writing and collaborating on various articles and book chapters. Dr. Baía serves on a variety of committees and boards, including the Belknap Economic Development Council, the Granite United Way, and the NH Charitable Foundation. Some of her professional interests are in the areas of student success, equity and inclusion, workforce pathways, adult learners, and immigrant and refugee advocacy. 01:29:16 Robin Read: Can you explain the difference between colorism and racism? 01:29:57 Suzy Colt: IT - the sound is great so far. Great job. 01:30:21 Gina/BHTNH (she/her): Thank you! 01:30:49 Gina/BHTNH (she/her): Feel free to post your questions here. I will pass them on to the panelists. 01:32:46 Gina/BHTNH (she/her): This article explains the difference between colorist and racism: https://time.com/4512430/colorism-in-america/ 01:34:02 Deborah Twombly: There has been so many interracial marriages in Central America and the Caribbean that the generalizations that are made seem unreal. Why does anyone have to check a box? 01:35:47 Deborah Twombly: How does one look American? To say you don’t look Dominican seems strange to me. 01:41:13 Gina/BHTNH (she/her): You can post your questions here and I will pass them up. 01:41:47 Suzy Colt: I would second the request to have someone read the poem, please. 01:42:09 Gina/BHTNH (she/her): You can find the poem in Spanish and in English here: https://changeagent.nelrc.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/extra-manners-embracing-black-puerto-rican-1.pdf 01:42:10 Cindy Spring: Also interested in the difference between racism and colorism ~ thanks 01:45:36 CORA QUISUMBING-KING (she/her): This reminds me of the Pedagogy of the Oppressed—when those who were looked down upon and oppressed did not learn new mental models and behaviors beyond what they saw as being practiced by the oppressors. 01:46:52 jeanninemacuser: The 01:49:06 CORA QUISUMBING-KING (she/her): Yes. These have to be named…..Thank you. 01:50:03 Gina/BHTNH (she/her): The article she’s referring to is this one: https://time.com/4512430/colorism-in-america/ 01:50:16 CORA QUISUMBING-KING (she/her): Discrimination based on skin color, also known as colorism, or shadeism, is a form of prejudice and/or discrimination in which people who share similar ethnicity traits or perceived race are treated differently based on the social implications that come with the cultural meanings that are attached to skin color. Wikipedia 01:51:24 CORA QUISUMBING-KING (she/her): Among Filipinos — some refer to it as part of “colonial mentality.” 01:52:46 Dottie: With racism comes power that helps to define that light skinned people have more privilege than darker. It is granted by whiteness being superior. Groups affected buys into this and it becomes colorism. There is an older book written in 90s called The Color Complex that explains. 01:54:46 CORA QUISUMBING-KING (she/her): It is linked to race—especially when white is considered superior. 01:55:13 jeanninemacuser: What concerns me the most, and what all speakers have alluded to, is that defining people by race and ethnicity implies rank & status where there is superiority and inferiority, value and, as some have said, privilege vs disadvantage. What is the origin of this type of mentality? Is it a function of human nature, or of ego to establish that hierarchy of importance? 01:56:23 Jane Cooper: Have you ever wondered why Whites go to such extremes to get the best darkest tans? suntans? 01:57:02 Deborah Twombly: Historically darker people were written about in encyclopedias as having lesser intelligence and lesser value. 01:57:25 CORA QUISUMBING-KING (she/her): JANE COOPER —And where whitening has become popular in some countries… 01:57:49 Kai Stapelfeldt: It even goes back to the Bible in the story of Ham. 01:59:07 Jane G: All extremely good points 02:00:17 Connie Roy-Czyzowski: This discussion makes me wonder who came up with the notion that white is superior to black in history? 02:01:31 Jane G: I think there has always been a class system as well as a caste system 02:01:36 Deborah Twombly: I too think there is a long way to go to get people not to yell out derogatory comments to People of Color. 02:02:10 Deborah Twombly: We need to stand up and demand it to stop whenever it occurs. 02:02:25 Dianne Lavoie: Sound is really good this week. Congratulations to IT. 02:02:45 Jane G: It starts with teaching our young! In South Pacific there's a song "You have to be taught" 02:02:49 Angela: Isabella Wilkerson describes these differentiations in detail in her book Caste. 02:03:37 CORA QUISUMBING-KING (she/her): Yes, it is important to advocate for one another…and to keep on learning….Thank you to “Tea Tails” and for honest questions and conversations. 02:04:02 Deborah Twombly: We need to move through our uncomfortable feelings and demand the right thing be done. 02:06:12 Beth Draper: Colonialism, Patriarchy, Christianity 02:07:07 CORA QUISUMBING-KING (she/her): greed/control of resources 02:07:31 Deborah Twombly: People in power advocating for discrimination historically in almost all nations. 02:07:44 Beth Draper: “Power over” vs. “Power with” 02:12:11 CORA QUISUMBING-KING (she/her): Thank you all for your courage…and commitment. 02:12:35 Deborah Twombly: And there has always been a minority fighting against discrimination, fighting for fairness, fighting for justice. 02:12:39 Connie Roy-Czyzowski: I have not heard many derogatory comments (out loud) to people of color, but I realize this happens and so sad to hear this happened at UNH or any university -- people should know better! What is more harmful is the denial and acknowledgement that discrimination is real and systemic, keeping schools from exploring and understanding our true history, (as we learned at the first Tea Talk - social studies is not even taught in most elementary schools), removing books from libraries or reading lists that deal with racism, discrimination, color -- these are the immediate concerning issues in NH these days and we need to speak out and tell our legislators we care about these issues and they should get rid of the divisive concepts legislation. 02:13:12 Anne Romney: That is so traumatic, Andres… That you live with this fear is something so important to hear about. This is not okay… I am so grateful for your honesty and openness. 02:15:11 Jane G: Connie and Anne, so very true! 02:17:40 Deborah Twombly: In Belize they must speak English once they enter school even if they and most do come into kindergarten with their native language. 02:18:11 CORA QUISUMBING-KING (she/her): Connie: inclusive education is key. Legislative advocacy against the concepts critical. Thanks for bringing this up. 02:19:20 Anne Romney: Every one of the panelists have brought so much here today. Thank you so much for sharing your personal stories. You are all so generous in helping us learn and understand. We all have a role to play in educating others so that we can move forward. 02:20:50 Suzanne Paquin: Thanks to the panelist. Amazing willingness to be vulnerable in this way. I learned so much and thank you for this program. 02:23:52 CORA QUISUMBING-KING (she/her): Muchas gracias for sharing your stories……May strength and wisdom continue to be part of your journeys. 02:25:06 Mimi White: from Mimi White Thank you all for being generous of heart and spirit, Your stories will be with me for a long time. We have more conversations ahead of us. Thank you Black Heritage Trail for creating this safe place. 02:25:11 JerriAnne Boggis: Thank you all for participating and add your comments here. These will be available to all after the program so we can learn from each other. 02:25:12 Kai Stapelfeldt: Muchas, muchas gracias to the panelists for their brave personal stories 02:25:14 Deborah Twombly: This is a story of systemic racism of leaving people of color out of the society’s amusements = public pools, amusement parks, movie theaters, etc. 02:26:01 Tricia M.: Muchas gracias/thank you so much, Will, Andres, Shantel, and Dr. Ruiz for your transparency, vulnerability, and honesty in facilitating such a rich conversation! 02:26:04 Connie Roy-Czyzowski: Every one of us should call our state legislators today to share what a great learning experience this has been for us, that racism does in fact exist, and that our legislature needs to get rid of the divisive concepts law. 02:26:11 JerriAnne Boggis: There was just a case ins Manchester last week when all the white students participated in an event to get their hair done but all the black kids were excluded. 02:26:17 Rosemary Burnham: Such a wonderful, heartfelt presentation. So grateful 02:28:54 CORA QUISUMBING-KING (she/her): I think it is wonderful that all of us continue to learn—to seek to understand. I trust each one of us have found a space where advocacy can occur. 02:31:43 Becky Eno: Thanks everyone for your generosity of spirit in sharing your stories and reflections. What an inspirational learning opportunity. And great audio this week!! 02:31:57 Jane G: Wonderful presentation today, thanks so much! And IT, thanks for working on the sound! 02:31:58 David Wheeler: From David Wheeler to everyone: Thank you Panalists for a informative insights 02:32:06 Gina/BHTNH (she/her): Thank you everyone for joining us today. Hope to see you next week. 02:32:20 Crystal Paradis (she/her): Thanks to all of the panelists and organizers and support folk for this great Tea Talk! 02:32:25 Gael Phillips (she, her, hers): This was an excellent program - thank you! 02:32:47 Beth Draper: Thank you so much panelists, for your courage and willingness to be so vulnerable to help us to learn. I am so grateful to you. Blessings! 02:32:52 Cari Moorhead: Thanks to the panel and to JerriAnne and all at BHTNH. This is an important discussion. 02:33:08 Connie Roy-Czyzowski: Excellent as usual. These conversations are necessary and healing. Let's all share this with at least 5 people we know. So much learning we need to do. So much teaching we need to do as well! 02:33:51 Deborah Twombly: Thank you JeriAnn the efforts continue. 02:33:51 Jennifer Owen: fabulous presentation. panelists are so generous in sharing their experiences. many thanks 02:33:51 Margery Phillips: Thank you! 02:33:58 Talmira Hill (she/her): Thank you, JerriAnne and Black Heritage Trail NH, for giving us these Tea Talks. Outstanding! 02:34:27 CORA QUISUMBING-KING (she/her): Thank you for the zoom opportunity. BHT! 02:34:52 Cecilia Azzi: Thank you! Cecilia and Victor Azzi